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Old 02-09-2010, 06:41 AM
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Default Netbook (web, email, maybe HD video)

Hello,

I am looking for a current gen netbook that offers the ability to view HD videos (like YouTube, etc.). Other than that, I just want it to surf the net. I am not certain if you have to have a specific processor or graphics to watch internet HD video?

It must have Windows 7 (I can upgrade to Home Premium if necessary). I would like the netbook to be snappy.

Thank you for any suggestions you may offer.
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Old 02-09-2010, 06:57 AM
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Hello,

I am looking for a current gen netbook that offers the ability to view HD videos (like YouTube, etc.). Other than that, I just want it to surf the net. I am not certain if you have to have a specific processor or graphics to watch internet HD video?

It must have Windows 7 (I can upgrade to Home Premium if necessary). I would like the netbook to be snappy.

Thank you for any suggestions you may offer.
Honestly...any netbook that is not older than 5 months old in technology will fit your bill. You will need to be more specific if you want a better recommendation.

Check out the recent reviews on this site as many models were just released in the past 60 days.

-Eric
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:19 AM
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Thanks. I have been reading tons of reviews as well as watching the videos.

I had heard that if these netbooks didn't have "ION" or other similar graphics, then HD video would stutter and skip. Basically I am looking for a netbook that will be fast.

I am looking at the Toshiba Satellite T115D-S1120 and S1125 but don't know which is better?

However, if I could save money and buy another netbook for around $399 or less that would fit my bill, I would go that route too. I have a Macbook Pro with VMWare fusion running XP virtually so I don't need a work horse. The netbook will only be for internet use around the house and the occasional trip. I have some light programs that I will use on it, but other than that all I need is a capable internet netbook that won't stutter on videos.
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:40 AM
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As I said in the other post, the Toshiba S1125 is technically superior to the S1120. The S1125 has a dual-core processor (which means it will be better at running multiple applications, there are also a bunch of programs that are written to take advantage of dual-core processors) and a larger hard drive. Other than that, it has the same specs as the S1120.

YouTube HD actually requires some pretty specific hardware. YouTube uses Adobe Flash for displaying videos and Adobe is rather stubborn when it comes to certain hardware support. You can playback HD videos using a netbook that has the Nvidia ION platform (along with Nvidia's HD chip), a Broadcom Crystal HD chip, Intel HD capable graphics (the GMA X4500/4500MHD and above), and ATI's (which is actually AMD's) HD hardware. All of these companies make chips that are dedicated to playing back HD video. All of them, except for Broadcom, put these chips right on the same die/board as their graphics cards. The issue is that you have to find the right software that can unload video decoding to these chips.

You can purchase an Nvidia ION equipped netbook but HD playback will stutter if you try to use Windows Media Player for video playback. Adobe is currently working on compatibility with the HD chips I mentioned. This means that the web browser will off-load the Flash content to the hardware chips. This version of Flash is still not in a final release, it is only available as a press release. An updated press release is expected this month with a final public release sometime around the end of this summer or even this fall.

Either way, you will definitely need something more "run of the mill" to playback HD YouTube videos. A generic netbook configuration (Atom N270/N280/N450 along with GMA 950/3150) can playback 720p content with lower video and audio bitrates when using VLC without issues. CPU usage will be stuck at about 70% so don't expect a typical netbook to last for 6 hours when playing back HD content. That is where these different hardware HD accelerators comes into play. With the appropriate software, you will be able to playback a 720p video while CPU usage sits at around 3%. Much more power efficient and you aren't limited to low bitrate 720p videos.
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:47 AM
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Thanks!

Now I am even more confused. LOL.

I have no clue what I want now.

I appreciate the help! Maybe I'll just pick up a "typical" netbook like the Toshiba NB305. Upgrade to Win 7 Home and 2GB RAM and just deal with what it does and doesn't do. If I wanna watch the HD video, I'll jump on the MBP.

With Bing Cash on TigerDirect, the NB305 is at $300.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:50 AM
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The Asus Eee PC 1001P is priced at $299 and offers a longer battery life while having the same processor, RAM, GPU, and hard drive size as the Toshiba NB305. I am not sure what Tigedirect charges for the Eee PC 1001P but you can find it for $299 on Amazon.com.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:01 PM
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I appreciate all of your help and suggestions!

Do you have a suggestion for a netbook (under 12") that has a 700p resolution, will do HD video, and has Windows 7 Home Premium minimum?

Thanks,

Matt
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:56 PM
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Sure. The only netbook that comes to mind is the HP Mini 311. It has an 11.6" screen (the netbook itself is only slightly bigger than 10" netbooks), can be configured with Windows 7 Home Premium, has a screen resolution of 1336X768, and can playback full 1080p videos.

The only issue with the HP Mini 311 is that, by the time you add different aspects (such as Windows 7 Home Premium, a 250GB hard drive, etc.), the price gets up in the $475-$500 range. You might as well go with the Toshiba S1125 at $499 if you are going that high.

One last thought would be to purchase Windows 7 as an afterthought. You can find Windows 7 Pro for $65 through Microsoft's student website (I can get you access). Additionally, your university might be offering free downloads of the OS. Check your university's status (some high schools are listed) here by going down to the MSDN AA Copy of Windows 7 section. My Alma mater is offering up Windows 7 Pro (along with Windows XP pro and Windows Vista business) for free. It is an ISO file that is downloaded, a disc can be ordered for $15.

Lastly, when customizing any netbook, never configure it with more than the base amount of RAM. You can find a 2GB stick of RAM for less than $20 on Amazon.com. A company such as HP will charge you $40 to upgrade to 3GB of total RAM. Why do that when you can spend $20 and get 3GB total (with the Mini 311)?

There are other 10" netbooks capable of playing back HD videos but they come with either Windows XP or Windows 7 starter. There are other 11.6" HD capable netbooks too but their prices are outrageous. They are only only $200 less than purchasing a full fledged notebook that will not only playback HD videos but will last for 7 hours (or more) on a single charge (such as the MacBook). When you get that close to something, you might as well just save your money for a little longer and get a much better product.

One thing you haven't mentioned is price. A wise netbook purchase would fall between the $250-$425 price range. $450 is too expensive as you can find ultra portable notebooks, with much better hardware (such as the Toshiba), for $499. Many 11.6"-12" HD capable netbooks are in the $600 price area. That is also just too expensive for a netbook. So I suggest that you hop on over to HP's website (make sure to log into their educational area if you are a high school or college student), configure a Mini 311, and go from there. You can get a Mini 210 if coming with Windows 7 is not a big deal (it can be configured with 7 Starter for $30). I don't see why it would be especially when you can install Windows after getting a netbook. You can also find many deals online for Windows 7.

You might also want to stroll down to your local big box retailer to see what types of deals they are offering. You might just run across an affordable ultra portable that would put any netbook to shame or an ION equipped netbook for a nice price.
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You are da man! I appreciate your insight!

Off to browsing the web I go!! Thanks again!
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Old 02-09-2010, 04:37 PM
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My problem is I don't want to get something and wish I would have gotten the better (more stuff) PC.

As stated. I have the Macbook Pro and love it. I want a netbook for running a couple of dedicated programs (very small, not intensive), surfing the net, etc.

But when I start to spec out the netbook, I feel like it is going to be under powered and leave me wanting more.

However in the end, I just want an internet device (basically). It's just convincing myself I don't need all the "latest and greatest."
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